Monday, September 26, 2011

those to whom evil is done

Our fingerprints are all over this. Tell Nicholas Kristof if you see him.

5 comments:

jcapan said...

Kristof is an assclown, but I would like to parachute Juan Fucking Cole into that camp for a few months.

Doug Sanger - Orange County Probation Department said...

This isn't Nick Kristof or Juan Cole's fault. This is Muammar Ghaddafi's fault for using sub-saharan mercenaries to support his bloody absolute dictatorship. Libyans have the right to self-determination. This is an unfortunate situation that was created by a mad man.

That Fuzzy Bastard said...

Not entirely Ghaddafi's fault either. It's true that he pursued the old Leninist policy of using foreigners as his enforcers precisely to promote this kind of hatred, thinking he could always ride it (Lenin's famous line about why he appointed the Pole Derzhinsky to head the NKVD: "Because a Pole will enjoy torturing Russians"). But it ain't Ghaddafi putting them in camps today. Equally obviously, only a complete moron would think it was Kristof or Cole's fault, seeing as how both of them very clearly said that this was a Libyan battle to be fought by Libyans as Libyans---self-determination and all that---in no small part so that Libyans would be responsible for the aftermath. And so they are. This is the fault of Libyans who are imprisoning and killing innocent people because they share a nationality with the foreign mercenaries; blaming anyone else is the usual colonialist "the natives are too dumb to have subjectivity" thinking. Admittedly, this reporter is weirdly indifferent to asking if there really are any mercenaries hiding among the guest workers, as their inevitably are at the tail end of these conflicts, but nu, that would probably be more than a web video could hold.

Ken Hoop said...

Juan Cole supported NATO's intervention. That's not saying it was a Libyan fight to be fought by Libyans. Now, Ron Paul might have said that-or Dennis Kucinich-and meant it.

jcapan said...

"Equally obviously, only a complete moron would think it was Kristof or Cole's fault, seeing as how both of them very clearly said that this was a Libyan battle to be fought by Libyans..."

Journalists, professors, bloggers who advocate military intervention, even humanitarian missions with questionable objectives, bear some measure of responsibility when things turn ugly. Advocating for Libyan rebels is one thing, plugging for administration/NATO bombing campaigns is quite another. It's not quite the NYT and Iraq but ...